Beyond Sunday
Beyond Sunday is a podcast where we dive into what our Church is up to, what's happening in society, go deeper into topics from Sunday mornings, and hear leadership talks and coffee break theology from Pastor Greg Griffith. This is a podcast of King of Kings Church in Omaha & Fremont, Nebraska. Learn more at kingofkings.org.
Beyond Sunday
Family Matters - Week 2
Continuing with the series Family Matters, Dina, Chad, and Kate explore how to honor family and others without losing yourself. They look at forgiveness, authority, and boundaries, offering guidance on navigating tough relationships through the lens of your faith.
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Welcome to Beyond Sunday, the King of Kings podcast, where we dive a little bit deeper into our sermon series and see what we're taking Beyond Sunday. My name is Dina Newsom, and I have some wonderful guests today. Go ahead and introduce yourselves, guys. Kate Solberg.
SPEAKER_00:My name is Chad Kelly.
SPEAKER_01:Why did that feel awkward? Don't know. Nope.
SPEAKER_00:I oversee student ministry here at King of Kings. Kate, what do you do?
SPEAKER_03:I'm the associate campus director at our Northwest Omaha campus. Great. Thank you guys so much for being here in the midst of our crazy Christmas season. Oh yeah. Uh things gear up, not just for families, but here at churches. So my question for you is what is your most favorite and the least favorite thing about the Christmas season? It can be work-related, it can be personal. What do you got? Most favorite, least favorite.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, my least favorite is that I don't really like the cold. I'm a I'm a warm body, so I like to be like I'd love to live near a beach. Um, so the cold has been a little rough when it was zero or negative eight, it felt like the other day. That was that was too much for me.
SPEAKER_03:Welcome to Nebraska.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's not fun. I was talking to someone the other the other week who's been in Nebraska for a while, and it was like 10 degrees when we were talking. And he goes, Oh, just wait, it'll get 50 degrees lower.
SPEAKER_01:50?
SPEAKER_00:He said last year it felt like negative 40 one time because the wind. It's insane.
SPEAKER_01:I block it out.
SPEAKER_00:That's my least favorite thing about the Christmas season.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I thought about my most favorite, and that's my secret way to entrap my children into my presence is by playing games, usually card games. And they don't listen to this podcast because why would they listen to a podcast that their mom is on? But um, I'm always like, oh my gosh, I found the coolest game. I'm so excited to play it. And that's my way that they're stuck with me for at least an hour or so, and they are not on their phone as much. Christmas Entrapment. Got it. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Is there a favorite game that you guys play?
SPEAKER_01:Uh we really like five crowns. Okay. And that takes a good chunk of time to play. But I just ordered two new games. One's like Uzzle. Oh, with the pictures.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. The images. Yeah. Yeah. That looks very interesting. Because I've uh seen that everywhere.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I yeah. I was just looking on Amazon, like the top games, and that was one of them. And I have nephews that are like fifth grade through 11th grade. So I have to have like a range of games to entrap them all.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. My favorite part is giving gifts. I love rapping. I love watching someone open the gift. I love trying to find a gift that's something they mentioned six months ago that they'll never remember that I remembered. Like that's my, I don't like shopping off a list. I like, like, what are they really into right now? And then I find something at some weird craft fair or online. Or yeah, just remember that, hey, this summer they said that they need a new, I don't know, like shine remover for their car or some random, like, I don't know, make something up and I'm like, haha, I got it for Christmas.
SPEAKER_00:Does that equally stress you out when like you don't don't have anything for someone and you have to find something to gift them?
SPEAKER_03:You know, I'm also a fan of gift cards. If I can't find the perfect gift, then it's just find the perfect place.
SPEAKER_04:And that works too. That's good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You would not be happy with my family. My parents were like, we're done with gifts forever. Really? We're not buying you any and we don't want any from you. Period. I was like, okay.
SPEAKER_03:I love gifts. Like I was the mom that when my kids were little, I everything that we bought anywhere within the six weeks of Christmas got wrapped. Like if they needed toothpaste, that was getting wrapped and put under the tree. Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Boxes of tissues wrapped and under the tree. Hey, here's toilet paper wrapped in under the tree. Wow.
SPEAKER_01:That's exciting. That must be your love language.
SPEAKER_03:Gifts, is it? Uh actually, it's not. Oh my.
SPEAKER_00:She just says all of them.
SPEAKER_03:Dang. Yeah. What do I hate? I don't know what I hate about the Christmas season. I'm really a big fan of Christmas. I like the magic, the wonder, the sparkle, just the excitement. I like the cold. I like the snow. I like lights. I don't I don't know what I hate when it's over.
SPEAKER_01:That's what I That's what I was gonna say. The day you have to take your tree down, it's like, uh, now all that's left is January and February.
SPEAKER_00:Where it gets really cold. Yeah. And that'll be really sad.
SPEAKER_03:Sometimes my tree doesn't come down until May. So I just push that up.
SPEAKER_00:May that's a hot take.
SPEAKER_03:One time, one time we were celebrating my son's birthday is in April, and my Christmas tree was still up when we were celebrating my son's birthday. And my daughters challenged me to leave it up all year. So I did just because you didn't take the tree down. I didn't take it down. It just stayed up till the next Christmas. And then I took it down. Did you in February?
SPEAKER_01:Did you excited about Christmas though? Yeah. I'm excited about Christmas all the time. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03:Because I had to put up other stuff. Like I took the stockings down and the other decor down.
SPEAKER_00:It was just the tree that's how many like seasonal decorations do you do in your home?
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So right now I do very few because right now my house is just two people. So I do less and less. Um, I just contribute to decorations at other people's homes that I visit, like my daughter or my father.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You smuggle stuff. They have plenty of decor for all of us. That's funny.
SPEAKER_00:My mom has always done an obscene amount of decorating every season. And like it's the workout whenever I go home. You gotta take Fox upstairs and bring them back downstairs, and it's exhausting.
SPEAKER_03:My mom had a whole one of those like little villages, you know. She's passed since then. But she likes that coming out every year. Oh, yeah. It was called Linda Land. Her name was Linda. And then she would name the streets and the houses, and this lake was such and such lake. And like she it was, yeah. And then she'd add to it every year. Wow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:My grandma uh she would collect uh Santas, and so she had hundreds of Santas that would stay in her home all year round. And so now that she's passed a couple years ago, the the the tradition we're starting is you Santa whoever hosts Thanksgiving. So you bring 20 or 30 of grandma's Santas and you hide them around their house. And we just got the text a couple days ago. We found the last Santa.
SPEAKER_01:That's amazing. That's kind of a fun challenge.
SPEAKER_03:That is really fun. Wow. All right. Well, we are getting ready for Christmas here at King of Kings by talking about another Christmas, maybe love, maybe struggle for some people. Family. Family matters is our current series, and Pastor Seth Flick is taking us us through it. We are in week two right now, where we are really talking about kind of the parental relationship. Last week we talked about siblings, and so this week it was about parents or people in a position of authority. What did you guys what are you taking beyond Sunday from this week's message?
SPEAKER_00:I just loved the line that Seth would say that it helped me remind me. What did what was his main line?
SPEAKER_03:The forgiveness one or about being good.
SPEAKER_00:Um it is not the parent that makes you, there's not the someone help me out.
SPEAKER_03:Um it's not about him, it's about you. That's what I that's the short version that I have.
SPEAKER_00:It's not the good of the person, it's the good that the Lord's making you into. And it's like so many times in our life, whether it's as simple as like working out or as hard as uh forgiving a family member or doing something for someone who just doesn't have the best authority in your life. Um it's not about the other person, it's about how God's forming you into be the person that He's calling you to be.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was good. Um and then he referenced his forgiveness is a must, but trust takes time to adjust. That was when you're talking about family relationships, I don't that forgiveness is a big it's a big part of it that we all need.
SPEAKER_03:So um, I really liked that he circled around because family can be a struggle and talked about how you can love and you can forgive and you can submit to authority, but that doesn't mean that you can't set boundaries for yourself. So if you have someone that you've had a hard relationship with or that has mistreated you or that doesn't agree with some of your beliefs, you can love them and you can forgive them, but you can still set your own boundaries. Um, and he talked about that the first week also. I just liked that he reiterated that it can be kind of touchy. So um he opened with the story of this young man, Denzel. Denzel, Denzel, um, who uh was scooping his father's driveway. It turned out to be Denzel Washington. Um, how did you relate to this story? Or how did it speak to you?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know, that was a hard story. Um just the persistence of his mother asking him to obey his father's request time and time again when it appeared that the father didn't deserve that treatment from his estranged son, and um that that was hard to hear. But God worked good through it, which was great to hear. And and um I don't know, just seeing how that contributed to who the man he is, the success he's ha has had, and I'm sure the perseverance and character he has because of it. That's what I thought.
SPEAKER_00:No, it made me think of the what was intended for evil, what God intended for good. And I don't know if it was necessarily intended for evil that he was scraping his father's driveway, but a hard situation. And God can take something that's exhausting that that makes you have a hard time and turn it for good, and and that's why he claims to have such success his faith in Jesus that I assume was built on that driveway hours and hours every week getting it done.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I really liked how um when he was complaining to his mom, she pretty much said, It's really not about your father, it's about you that you're continuing to do this. Um and that, gosh, that's just a very formative piece, I think. So yeah. Okay. Um I one of the things that he kind of wrapped up with there was God does not ask you to submit because the authority is good. God asks you to submit because he is making you that's what it was. Sorry, it was not at the top of my notes. Um But he is so my question kind of along those lines is how can we reconcile the teaching of submitting? You know, God teaches us that we're supposed to submit, but how can we reconcile the teaching of submitting to unjust authority with maintaining personal boundaries and self-respect?
SPEAKER_00:I mean, it's hard because like especially not to touch too much in politics, whatever side you you uh agree with, it's broken. There's there's broken aspects of every single side. And how can we uh submit to an authority that we view so broken? But what if the submission to what we view as not right is exactly what's forming us to choose love versus choosing to be right? And putting our own needs to the side for the second for the sake of the person across the table from us or across the street from us. That's uh that doesn't agree with you. But what would it look like to not choose your own politics, but to choose the the care and what the other person needs?
SPEAKER_03:There's a when things get very controversial kind of in that respect, there's a meme that I post a lot that says, left wing, right wing, it's the same darn bird. I mean, we are all in this together. And you know, why do we want to wish ill for people that may disagree with us? It is a different, you know, it's harder. That submission piece, I think, is harder to swallow or harder to get to sometimes if we don't agree with whatever the authority is. But um, there's still, you know, uh a way to be honoring, I think, without necessarily agreeing with what everything that somebody is saying or stands for.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. We're and we're called to reflect the love of Jesus to others. And um I think all of us could find things to complain about, either about the current administration or the past administration or whatever authority is in place. Um, but will that attract people to the goodness of the Lord? Probably not. You know, uh, and a lot of times it closes doors um instead of opening them. And um, like we all agree, and also throughout the whole Old Testament, God's power is not diminished because of a ruler's corruptness ever. In fact, you know, sometimes he can work more powerfully through that, and in an instant he can write any situation. He has everything he needs to do that. Um, but the Lord, as we know, is playing the long game and he is long suffering, he is patient, and he's a god of for first, second, third, fourth, fifth chances over and over and over. So why would we why would we not attempt to emulate that? So that's what kind of things I thought about.
SPEAKER_03:So um, one of the things that Seth brought back from last week's message was the idea that forgiveness is a must, but trust takes time to adjust. It's so rame rame. Um but what role does forgiveness play in submitting to unjust authority? And how can that transform relationships?
SPEAKER_01:Where do you find that to be a fit? Um usually I feel like when I'm quick to forgive, that's when I feel the healthiest. When I'm holding on to um anger, bitterness, unforgiveness. It is like, you know, that there's a saying about unforgiveness is a poison that actually you're swallowing yourself, that it's eating you from the inside out. And it's so true. You know, um, there have definitely been people in my life that I've struggled with forgiving. Um, but yet the Lord's mercies are new every morning. And he meets us with new mercies every morning and says, you know, what you're lacking, I have. And if you need mercy, the Lord is abounding in mercy. Lord, would you give me your mercy to forgive this person instead of dwelling on do they deserve it or not? Like that's not the question. Um it's it's about like what you've both said. Um, God is God is good and he's working goodness in us. The corrupt or the just authority is not even in the equation, really.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, it's assuming that one side is ten times worse than your own heart. Yeah. And like we love because he first loved us.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Why it's not logical to withhold forgiveness when you've been given forgiveness yourself. Right. You've you've seen and tasted the grace and you've seen and tasted the mercy that Jesus has to offer. And you're like, actually, this person doesn't get it. I think I know better than God in this circumstance. Right. But no, it's it's so true. Forgiveness opens up the door to show be to reflect the light of Jesus, to show the love that He has for us.
unknown:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:But sometimes it just feels so good to hold on to that grudge, that person who hurt you or wronged you, or that boss that you didn't like, or like I just feel like it's so human. Like I just think does God does God look down and go, ah, they're so human.
SPEAKER_00:Probably every once in a while.
SPEAKER_03:Like I say, oh, they're so young about my kids that you know haven't learned something. Does he just shake his head and think, okay, when are they gonna learn? You know, it really is the best. Luckily, he looks at us with love. Uh, he does.
SPEAKER_01:And there's nothing we can do that is like shocking or surprising to him. There's nothing new under the sun. All of our shortcomings are the same shortcomings that humanity has had from the beginning. So he knows what we're gonna do and he loves us despite of it, and he's pursuing us to try to show us a better way, day in, day out, day in, day out. So that's the good news.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:No, like yesterday. I love sweets. I'll be honest. That's that's my kryptonite at all times. Anything chocolate, like don't take note of that, Dina. Yeah, please no. I don't need any more right now. Um like yesterday, I I had a smaller lunch and there were cookies in the break room. I had like three or four cookies, and then I wasn't terribly I was full, so I didn't really eat much dinner. And then I got home, I was like, Oh, I need a snack. So I got some more sweets, and I ate a couple more cookies. And like this morning I woke up and I was exhausted, and I was so tired, and I've been more drained than I have been in the past all day. And it's like that's kind of like when we don't forgive people, like it feels so good in the moment, it feels righteous to hold on to that anger. The cookies are so yummy, they're so good, but I promise you it doesn't fulfill. I promise you it it will not lead to longer happiness. But like what you said, Kate, it it when you forgive, and it's not about what you feel or what you receive, but it's it feels right in your soul because you as hard as it is to forgive, it feels nice to just let go. Right. To not hold on to that anger anymore.
SPEAKER_01:And they say your feelings follow your actions. So even when you don't want to forgive, like try faking it first, you know, say it out loud. Just say, I forgive this person in the name of Jesus because there's power in the name of Jesus. And I think your heart will start to change because that's what our Lord does. He changes hard hearts and softens them because we cannot do it on our own. We'll hold on to the anger righteously for so long.
SPEAKER_00:We'll flip the tables. Yeah, because we need to.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like we have the authority. We think we have the authority to do that, but we don't.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe we need to flip the break room tables that still contain cookies.
SPEAKER_00:That'd be good for my heart. No joke. Yeah, in my stomach.
SPEAKER_03:I was gonna say, not just for your heart.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, dirt, maybe good for my heart.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so um the one of the Bible stories that Seth talked about was um this uh story about Rachel. And Laban, am I saying that right? I'm always stressed out when I say a Bible name on the Laban, the microphone, folks. Feel free to send me a note and correct me if I'm wrong. Um but um Chad, do you kind of want to summarize what that story is or just the gist of it?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so this is taking place. If you remember Seth's first message was talking about Jacob and Esau, there was this discourse and there was a 20-year gap. So this is taking place in that 20-year gap. And Jacob goes and goes to his uncle, uh Laban, and he says, Hey, I I need I need some work. And in that time, when he gets there, he sees two of his daughters, which are actually his cousins. A little weird. He sees one in Seth's very kind in words, ugly.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And the other one um was beautiful. Um, and so uh Jacob goes to Laban and says, Hey, you have a very beautiful daughter. Can I work as a payment um for your daughter to take her? Um and then I will receive her. And he says, Yes, you can work for me, sir, for seven years. And so he works for seven years all every day, imagining the long-term goal that he gets to be with his wife, his his the love of his life. Seven years later, goes to the wedding night, um, the where where the marriage was consummated, um, Laban hands Leah instead of Rachel, uh, the not beautiful daughter, and the marriage is consummated, and they wake up the next morning and Jacob's like, What happened? This is not what I signed up for, man. And so he says, Well, it is a custom that the older daughter is given away first, and he says, But um after this wedding week, I will give you Rachel if you work for another seven years. And so he works, he gets Rachel and works for another seven years, and then has two wives, and that's essentially the story. And the the hard part um, that Jacob means deceiver, he deceived Esau. Uh, the deceiver gets deceived by his uncle.
SPEAKER_03:The tables have turned, not flipped, they've turned. Um, I always think it's interesting to um read some of the stories from the Old Testament where just traditions were so different than, you know, like how acceptable things were then that we would consider, you know, not acceptable now. And it's just a different perspective, a different time. Not everything like God's word, those things still true. Can't stay, you know, stays true the whole Bible. But some of the customs, you know, were different then. So um looking at this story at first, I'm like, wait, what? But but it really then, you know, kind of goes back to that piece of um what was acceptable or what was authoritative then, you know, that was um submitted to in that story. Um, how does this story relate to anything in your own life? Or does it speak to you? Does it, you know, make you think of something that we experience today or something you've experienced?
SPEAKER_01:I guess what I think of is um for the longest time I was I dwelled on the fact that my life didn't turn out the way I had planned it to very different, and you were deceived. Yeah. And and I um and I really was like focused on myself, which never is good, you know, for very long. And I felt the Lord just gently remind me like, do you think there's a lot of people whose lives turn out the way they plan? And the truth is, most people's lives don't turn out the way they planned. God's plan did not turn out the way he had planned. You know, in in the Garden of Eden, I mean, I think we make it two chapters into the Bible. Um, and that's as far as it goes before the plan, you know, is ruined by our own sin. Um, so it's very that the story was very relatable to me, thinking, oh, I planned for this, this is what I expect, I work hard, you know, this is what I should get. Well, that doesn't happen. So that's how I could relate.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like for me, I I loved Seth's points at the end, and I may be skipping ahead here. No, God. Um, but just the beauty that submission leads to beauty. Um in this story, submission of seven years, fourteen years ended up getting him his wife that he wanted all along. Um, and not necessarily submitting for the sake of the reward, but knowing that that God God gets it, He cares for us. Um, and the one my favorite point out of out of the four of his points from the message was that your submission plants seeds that may outlive you. And I I love it, especially because this story, um, Jacob and Rachel is the line that goes to Jesus. And without that submission of seven extra years of work, the story wouldn't have looked like how it did today. And it's it that it's the beauty in in the midst of that, that submission today, you'd have no idea how God can use that. It's gonna be hard. Forgiveness is gonna be hard. That person that that made you angry or frustrated will will probably hurt you again. And but there's a choice to love them, to do what God's calling you to do or not. But just what what what what could that step today lead to in 20 years, in a hundred years, and thousands of years?
SPEAKER_01:That's really good. Yeah, that is good.
SPEAKER_03:So Seth mentioned some specific biblical references where Jesus, Peter, and even Paul discussed submission. Did any of these like jump out at you and how do they apply practically today?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I wrote these down. Um, Peter spoke to the church, Paul was speaking to the Roman church, and Jesus was spoke to the unjust authority, and and all of them highlighted the command to submit to authority, and submission is not the same as obedience, right? And so um, you know, we are never to violate what the Lord has commanded us to do if an earthly authority should declare it. Um but submission looks different. Um, and one question Seth said, is there honor to be given? And the answer is yes. So it's that fine line between obedience, submission, and honor, and finding what that looks like from day to day.
SPEAKER_00:Submission is not obedience, it's really good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I actually stole that from Kevin McClure, so shout out to Kevin.
SPEAKER_00:Good job, Kevin. That's such a blowing my mind. Wow.
SPEAKER_01:He's a major theologian. Yeah, he goes deep. Yeah, he does.
SPEAKER_00:No, I thought of uh Jesus's um talking about authority and give to Caesars what is Caesar's kind of similar thing. Wow, submission is not obedience. That's really good. But it's it's hard. Like in again, we like to take it back to the political scene, every president has done something that is not perfect.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:How do you uh submit while realizing that they're imperfect and they're not gonna do what Jesus is gonna do?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I think when we see imperfect, possibly corrupt leaders who fall short, it should like urge our heart to desire the perfect leader, which is only Jesus, right? He is the ultimate perfect authority. Every other earthly authority will fall short. And it's wrong to put our full hope in any earthly leader. You're going to be let down and you're deceiving yourself if you think one, oh, this leader will figure it all out. Maybe, yeah, but probably not.
SPEAKER_03:So I think it also should spur us to pray for our leaders. I mean, I think there's a a time where we get to where we don't respect someone or we don't want to honor them as a leader when that's not the right attitude, we should be praying that God is speaking to them and that they are open to hearing, you know, God's desire for his nation, for his world, for his people, you know, and how can that leader help um promote that instead of us praying for a demise or praying for someone else to, you know, win the vote next time or whatever. How are we praying for the people in power that they can lead in the way that God desires?
SPEAKER_01:Right. And teach our children to do that too. Because that's such a healthier response than teaching your kids. Like, this is the one right party. This one, oh no. You know, like, sure, you can teach your children like these are values that we value. We see this in this party, we see this in this party. But above all, we're gonna pray for our leader that they would know the Lord and his authority and would do their job in light of that.
SPEAKER_03:So I kept thinking of when even before um Seth was kind of talking about the instances of Jesus and Peter and Paul, I kept thinking of the story of Daniel and how, you know, the the bad guys convinced the king to make the rule that you couldn't pray to anyone else except the king. And Daniel continued, he was honoring of his king and submitted to the king's authority, like was very accepting of the punishment that was laid down, but he continued to obey God's word. You know what I mean? And and and even to the point of getting thrown in the lion's den. Um, that story just kept pinging up on my radar um the whole time that Seth was talking about submission of authority. I thought that was another good biblical example of somebody that was submitting to the authority, that was um, you know, leading at the time, but still obeying God's word.
SPEAKER_01:And look what God did through that obedience. I mean, incredible things. Yeah. So yeah.
SPEAKER_03:All right, guys, as we wrap up today, what are your final takeaways from this message two of our Family Matters series?
SPEAKER_00:I think the world is fleeting. Um everything is is fleeting, everything's meaningless. I'll go Ecclesiastes on us. Um but just to take it back to the importance of love, do everything in your life to for the for the big why of to love the other person, to share the love of Jesus with them. That love will transform someone's life faster than rebellion, than talking bad, than unforgiveness. And yeah, to love.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, people were attracted to Jesus. They were drawn to him because of his love and his kindness and his ability to not be in a hurry. And we want to, we want to do that too. We want people to say, like, what is why are you different? You know, what is the source of that joy? And if if you're arguing and debating earthly authority, like, I don't know how much joy it's gonna be in that. And we're getting close to Christmas, and I, you know, we love the Christmas story, but I just, as I I'm a broken record, but when you tell the Christmas story, I think it's so important to say, finish it with, and Jesus is coming back. He's coming back. The story is not over. He he will come down and reign on earth as the perfect ruler. And right now we are to be preparing for that day. And we want people, the people around us to know that Jesus is coming back. He is a God of his word. There is nothing he says that he does not do, so we can have full confidence that we will see him face to face one day. And I pray that those around me will be able to claim him as their Lord. Can I get an amen?
SPEAKER_03:Amen. There you go. It's just a mic drop. That's it. That's it. I'm sorry, we're done. The end. Um, I really went back to after the whole message and after I went back and watched it as well. I just went back to the Denzel story at the beginning and it being not about what the what the dad was doing. It was about what I'm doing. You know what I mean? Like, am I living the way that God wants me to? Am I doing my best in that respect? Am I treating others? Am I showing love? Am I being forgiving? Am I obeying God? You know, um, that am I, what am I doing? And how does that affect the world around me? Because I can't control other people, but I can control what I do. That's really my takeaway. Well, thank you guys so much for being here today. I'm so happy to have you. And we will have week three of Family Matters this Sunday, which is also cozy Christmas Sunday at all of our campuses. So yeah, Christmas jammies, sweaters, ugly Christmas sweaters. I want to see some funny hats, or you know, uh, I don't I don't know. Surprise me. Yeah, all right. But until then, let's keep living our faith beyond Sunday.
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